Posts by DCs Ghost

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satanism, witchcraft and devil worship. . . . . .

by DCs Ghost in

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friends

contrary to popular belief and what society and the media will portray satanism, devil worship and witchcraft are 3 very independent systems of belief, .

sure, to those who are afraid of looking into books dealing with the occult, for fear of being possessed or what have you, i write this as a vent because it makes me laugh when i hear people assume that the three are the same, they aren't, .

and the reality is that even though the three get bunched up as the same, many times it is the ignorance of the practitioners which keeps the ignorance alive.

DCs Ghost

hi Bridgette,
thnks for the kind words,
your last comment touches upon why i use Anais Nin's quote. . .
we see the world the way we are programmed to,

my nature is to question why, which eventually led me out of the borg, it is said that everything happens for a reason, i think the borg experience opened my mind and caused me to go back and research why i believed what i did,
when i finally realized that the bible had no more truth in it than the koran or any other holy books for that matter, it was an eye opener and confirmed my views that the borg was way off,
it gave me a fresh perspective on life, from there i continued exploring and realizing that i was seeking out my own spiritual nature without a feeling of impending doom,
i was being true to my self and i no longer had the weight of guilt to tell me i was doing something wrong,
i ended up in the one place that always intrigued me,
the irony is too sweet, i ended up at the root of why i believe what i do, by questioning the ones who taught me to avoid the place i am at now, the very same place that was taught to be so "evil" in reality has helped me get in tune with myself and the creative force that surrounds us all, i got here by trashing the hard drive and reinstalling what i feel to be truth and real from my perspective and personal experience,

Satan
life does get better indeed, there is such a feeling of empowerment in knowing that you are in control of your life and that you are doing the things that you feel you should be doing, and not wasting your life on a pointless mission led by another's agenda,
i can relate to the feelings of depression, (i'm kinda upset myself that i missed the 60's), but seriously it took me a while to realize i was depressed, i guess it was denial, i didn't want to confront that side of my nature for i thought it would make me weak, in reality avoiding it was making me weaker, but a good therapist and meds go a long way, keeps your happy happy, if you know what i mean. . . .
im interested in the energy manipulation that you speak of, any begginers book that you recommend other than the one you mentioned earlier?

Claudia,
ever watch south park? the episode where kyle helps restore democracy in cuba and later reports his parents for molesting him so he could go see the raging pussies, on cartman's suggestion. . .
anyhows point is the kids referred to the parents as birthgivers and nothing more, seems to be the perspective i have taken on her. . . .

peace all
dc

19

How Easy Was It To Leave?

by ballistic in

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friends

when i was df, i actually wanted to return which isn't suprising when you look at their brain washing: * http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/mind.html.

i think it took me a couple of years to fully get over it and now the scripture "like a dog returning to it's vomit" comes to mind.. i gather some people here came to their senses while still in the org.

did anyone actually find it easy to leave?.

DCs Ghost

i think the hardest thing for me to do was to build up the courage to walk away, i knew i didn't want to be a dub because i didn't agree with some of the beliefs, but at the same time i didn't want to stop hanging out with a few of dubs who were good friends, or so i thought i the time. . . .but once i walked out i never looked back. . .

dc

6

Satan & Miracles

by Satanus in

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friends

according to the wt, satan has been doing the majority of the work for the last 1960 years or so.

while jehover had been resting since the exertions of giving birth to creation, he manage to finish his book.

since god completed his last book, he has gone into virtual hibernation.

DCs Ghost

on miracles. . .
can't forget the tall "men" who protect the sisters when they go door to door. . . . .

satan is the best friend the church has ever had, for he has kept them in business for all these years. . . . .

peace
dc

15

Did They Go Too Far?

by DCs Ghost in

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friends

read the following when you get a chance .

i am curious to your reaction.

.. http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0135/koerner.php.

DCs Ghost

for anyone who may have missed this. . . .

51

satanism, witchcraft and devil worship. . . . . .

by DCs Ghost in

jw
friends

contrary to popular belief and what society and the media will portray satanism, devil worship and witchcraft are 3 very independent systems of belief, .

sure, to those who are afraid of looking into books dealing with the occult, for fear of being possessed or what have you, i write this as a vent because it makes me laugh when i hear people assume that the three are the same, they aren't, .

and the reality is that even though the three get bunched up as the same, many times it is the ignorance of the practitioners which keeps the ignorance alive.

DCs Ghost

Claudia
if you can label speaking for 20 minutes, once every 3-4 months a normal healthy mother/son relationship, then sure i guess all is fine [8>]

Morning Satan,
(something so soothing about saying that)
tell me more about your history with the dubs, location and such. . .
seems i have met a few who have come to the same conclusions on their own, kinda interesting. . . .

peace
dc

51

satanism, witchcraft and devil worship. . . . . .

by DCs Ghost in

jw
friends

contrary to popular belief and what society and the media will portray satanism, devil worship and witchcraft are 3 very independent systems of belief, .

sure, to those who are afraid of looking into books dealing with the occult, for fear of being possessed or what have you, i write this as a vent because it makes me laugh when i hear people assume that the three are the same, they aren't, .

and the reality is that even though the three get bunched up as the same, many times it is the ignorance of the practitioners which keeps the ignorance alive.

DCs Ghost

dc, it sounds as if she is still your mom
claudia
can you explain this?

15

Did They Go Too Far?

by DCs Ghost in

jw
friends

read the following when you get a chance .

i am curious to your reaction.

.. http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0135/koerner.php.

DCs Ghost

i knew this would be great for conversation. . .

Conflicted
thank you very much for reiterating i think you said it much more clearly than i did. . . .

Seeker
thanks for expanding on this. . .btw his own parents turned in his journal. . . .

that fact is that he did not act on it
and he did not write it as a confession

it was FICTION,
btw thanks for bringing up Lolita, not only is it a book it is also a movie, which i believe pushes the issue even further. .

for as horrible and grotesque as it was he has been sentenced for fiction. . . . .
so all you writers out there think what this can do to you
as Conflicted pointed out this sets a precedent that need s to be checked quickly if not we can kiss the horror genre goodbye, and most erotica will go out the window too,

this is america in ohio boys and girls. . . .

dc

51

satanism, witchcraft and devil worship. . . . . .

by DCs Ghost in

jw
friends

contrary to popular belief and what society and the media will portray satanism, devil worship and witchcraft are 3 very independent systems of belief, .

sure, to those who are afraid of looking into books dealing with the occult, for fear of being possessed or what have you, i write this as a vent because it makes me laugh when i hear people assume that the three are the same, they aren't, .

and the reality is that even though the three get bunched up as the same, many times it is the ignorance of the practitioners which keeps the ignorance alive.

DCs Ghost

it is curious how similar our lives have been Bridgette, as far as the way we got in and the way we got out,
i am currently solitary myself, the coven was a starting point which my coworker introduced me to, she knew before i did but she never pushed it on me,
i had been reading carlos castaneda at the time and i remember reading something to the effect that the teacher comes when the student is ready, and around that time she and i would have some interesting conversations about life, and one day she asked me to go to her sisters for they were getting together for the full moon, she said i would have a good time,
after i left miami i became solitary. . . .

hi Claudia
in answer to your question as to what they think, this is my stance,

i am pagan, what i mean by that is that it is a lifestyle and not a religion for me,
technically anyone not christian can be labeled a pagan,
i personally don't subscribe to judeo-christian beliefs, nor any type of religious organization for that matter,
i believe jesus walked around but his teachings were severily warped over time, by the church
i have read up on different paths, and taken what i like from what i have read, as is usually the case with most solitaries,

because it is not a religion, there are no rules to follow other than
do what you will, harm no one,
that is the code, it is quite simple and common sense dictates my life,
i am solely responsible to the voice of my conscience, and responsible for my own actions,
i believe that karma goes a long way and i am a firm believer that what i put out is what i get back,
i don't need a book or a committee to give me guidelines or rules to live by,
i also believe that we are not born sinners, that is a label that we get pinned with, by christ based religions, this is a conclusion that i have come to on my own and i could expand on this if you like. . .

because i have chosen to walk away from the borg, i am on a need to know basis with my folks, if they can distance themselves from me because they feel i am a bad association and need to obey man made laws, then so be it, i can return the favor, in order to make their life easier

this is the way i see things for as cold as it may sound,
if they can choose to follow a herd of old geezers and let these goons dictate their life and cause a division between us, that is their choice and it is they who need to live by it, not i
i respect their decision and i don't impoose my beliefs on them
unfortunately they don't share that common respect with me,

it is impossible to have a conversation with them without the borg coming up, that is their life they know nothing outside of it,
i think it is sad and pathetic that adults can give up their existence to a printing company and let such dictate their life,

when i first got out i tried to make some type of ammends with them and be the good son, and maintain a relationship,
it didn't get far, if i did not make the effort they did not either,
8 years have elapsed and there have been stretches of time where we have not spoken at all,
(we went through a period of 2 years without speaking at one point)
it sucks, but that is life on their terms,
through the years i have decided that it is best to not speak to them as much, for they can be very draining,
in the next life hopefully we will sort it out. . . .

my mom knows my nature and she knows that i like books, she knows i like to read, but above all i question everything, i believe that she may know, because of some of the conversations we have had, secretly i know she believes i am doing what is right for me though she will not say it and like any witness mom she harbors the hope that i will return, though i have made it pefectly clear that pigs have a beter chance of growing wings,

edited because i felt like editing. . . wasn;t happy with the first draft it wasn't saying what i wanted to convey
and why am i justifying this?

peace
dc

51

satanism, witchcraft and devil worship. . . . . .

by DCs Ghost in

jw
friends

contrary to popular belief and what society and the media will portray satanism, devil worship and witchcraft are 3 very independent systems of belief, .

sure, to those who are afraid of looking into books dealing with the occult, for fear of being possessed or what have you, i write this as a vent because it makes me laugh when i hear people assume that the three are the same, they aren't, .

and the reality is that even though the three get bunched up as the same, many times it is the ignorance of the practitioners which keeps the ignorance alive.

DCs Ghost

hi Bridgette

in a nutshell my history. . .
i was born in 70
my mom accepted studies back in 72,
she fell victim to door to door tactics, for she had just seperated from my dad and wasn't much of a catholic, so my take is that in her low she was scooped up,
she was baptized in 74 and has been a dub since,
in 76 she married a dub undergoing studies, which of course she got slack for cuz he wasn't baptized yet, he was dunked shortly after,
so from the age of 2 i went to meetings with my mom, and after she married, i was locked in
i would have probably bailed out at a younger age had it been her and i alone, but those are the breaks,

at 13 i started raising havoc and royally pissing off the elders, they managed to get me in line for a while or should i say i conformed because it was the wise thing to do,
in 86 we moved from NJ to FL and i found my break, not really knowing anyone there it was easier to miss meetings and i really didn't care what the "brothers" thought of me
it took me a few years but by the age of 23 i was fully out and never returned . . .

i always believed in a higher power, but i could not relate to their god,
there were things that i experienced growing up that went against what i was learning from the bible,
i was torn between curiosity and fear,
curiostiy prevailed, there were things that just came to me naturally, things i would just know,
and i found these more intriguing
but i knew to not talk about such, at least not to witnesses

shortly after i jumped boat i found a coven through one of my coworkers and learned a few things from them,

my first gathering though, i was a little concerned as to what i would be experiencing, having all the witness prejudices going off in the back of my mind during the ritual, but when i saw the truth for myself i realized there was nothing to be scared of, and since then have felt more in tune with myself and my surroundings,

i guess in way i was lucky, i found a group that really understood the craft for what it is and not for what it is hyped up to be. . .

no regrets

what's your story?

peace
dc

15

Did They Go Too Far?

by DCs Ghost in

jw
friends

read the following when you get a chance .

i am curious to your reaction.

.. http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0135/koerner.php.

DCs Ghost

willy
he was NOT prosecuted for child rape. the site is not telling you or me what he WAS prosecuted for

he was prosecuted for possession of child pornography
based on his private personal journal,
his thoughts were considered to be child pornography,
the moment that he wrote them down he broke the law,
that is why he was prosecuted
that is what is being said in the article and that is what this debate is about
the issue is not so much the subject but rather,
if l writing down your personal thoughts could convict you of a crime,

dc